In this episode, SamCat is back in the studio with Shawn as they discuss being snowed in in Nashville, TN. They also dive into RipCat's adventures in Hawaii. Shawn gives an update on his life as a dad and they have an important conversation about maternity leave policies and the need to support parents during the "fourth trimester." They express their outrage at the short duration of maternity leave and advocate for longer and more comprehensive policies. To wrap things up, they have a fun "final four" segment where they talk about their favorite things about snow storms!
In this episode, SamCat is back in the studio with Shawn as they discuss being snowed in in Nashville, TN. They also dive into RipCat's adventures in Hawaii. Shawn gives an update on his life as a dad and they have an important conversation about maternity leave policies and the need to support parents during the "fourth trimester." They express their outrage at the short duration of maternity leave and advocate for longer and more comprehensive policies. To wrap things up, they have a fun "final four" segment where they talk about their favorite things about snow storms!
Welcome back to In the Booth. I'm Sean Booth and thank you guys for tuning in. Wherever you're listening from, maybe you are in Miami, florida today, which is probably a little bit warmer than where we are. Maybe you're from Somerville, south Carolina, or Newport Views, virginia. Never heard of that. Newport News, have you heard of that? No, thanks for tuning in. And we've got her. She's back in the studio, coming back from Hawaii. She's been living the dream and she came right back to Snow in Nashville, tennessee, and she is wearing an Old Dominion beanie. She's wearing a pink sweatshirt that looks like Walter got ahold of it, and black jeans. We've got Rip Cat back in the building. Rip Cat.
Speaker 2:I like that. There's also a Rip in my jeans right there.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, that's like a Rip in the ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't. Actually funny story about that I found I've talked about it before. Curve Love Denim from Abercrombie. It's my favorite because it actually fits me.
Speaker 1:And I obviously not an ad yet. Hey, let's manifest that.
Speaker 2:I bought these jeans because they were the right size. I did not click through all of the photos, so when I got it there was a Rip in the ass. I was like what the hell is this? And so I go to return them at Abercrombie and they're like ma'am, this is the style of the jean, and I have never felt like more of a boomer in my life. So that was apparently planned and I was like, well, you know what? I'm just leaning into this. I'm going to look like a cute Gen Z, even though I completely exposed myself, trying to return these jeans because I thought there was a problem with it, and I felt like my dad, all those years being like you pay for all those holes in your jeans and there you are.
Speaker 2:I sure did.
Speaker 1:That's an edgy look. It's like that should be behind like a paywall, like Patreon. Get an exclusive look at what Sam Katz is wearing here today.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I might have to charge extra for the ass rip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the ass rip. You can find that on YouTube right now If you're watching. Welcome back. And Sam Katz, where the hell you been?
Speaker 2:I feel like I haven't been here in forever. I was actually trying to process that last night. I have not spent more than I don't know maybe three days in Nashville since before Thanksgiving, and it is January 20, something right now.
Speaker 1:I don't even know. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:It has been a wild ride, but I did. I went home for Christmas and had a great time there, got to see my family, came back immediately, had a show with Old Dominion for the New Year's Eve you know rock and countdown, abc, whatever. Obviously the ball drops at midnight, that show wraps up and I am on a plane at 7am the following morning to Hawaii. We had a couple shows out there so I did do some work and then I stayed after in vacationed, but we did. Our first stop was Honolulu, waikiki Beach area. Yeah, I have to say, have you ever been there?
Speaker 1:I have been to all the islands and Honolulu is fantastic.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Hawaii is my favorite. I've told you this million times. Yes, long answer is short. I've been there.
Speaker 2:Have you okay? So I'm asking because on Honolulu we did there's Diamond Head hike. It's like very popular there. We were going to go there. Apparently you need to make a reservation after COVID. So, heads up, if you're going to Honolulu and you want to do that hike, you have to make reservation to hike. I didn't realize that that was a thing, because that seems insane to me. But whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the island where Pearl Harbor is Correct. Yes, I did a hike there, which is also weird, yeah, because there's a lot of Japanese people there.
Speaker 2:Well, that's also true, that's also true I was there.
Speaker 1:I was like this feels kind of weird. Are you guys like celebrating right now, being like, yep, this is what we did.
Speaker 2:I did not put that together until right now, but you're not wrong, okay, anyways. So Diamond Head, we have a Uber driver who was dropping us off and he was just like you guys, didn't make a reservation. He was a local. He's lived there forever. He gave us a fantastic tour of the island on our way there. He's like, well, there's a hike not too far from here, I won't charge you to drop you off. It's a little strenuous. It's a Cocoa Head crater. And we're like, okay, he's like it's just steps. It's like wooden steps up the hill and we're like, oh, perfect, sean, when I tell you that it was the hardest thing I have voluntarily done for fun in my entire life, it was 1100 steps almost vertical At one point. There's no ground in between, so it's just wooden slats, almost like a railroad. I had to stop multiple times and, like you know, there's the guys that are the heroes that have no shirt on. They're like running it for their morning workout.
Speaker 2:There are children not wearing shoes, just like pouncing right by you, but then there's also 80% of us who are completely winded. I thought I was like. First of all, I drank like an entire bottle of champagne the night before.
Speaker 1:How are you feeling from the night before, cause I know you weren't doing that sober.
Speaker 2:No, I was actually. I just had a little bit of Lamarca. Let me tell you when you're burping up Lamarca the next morning on an 1100 step vertical hike, it's rough.
Speaker 1:What's the hike called?
Speaker 2:Cocoa Head, Cocoa Head crater, something like that.
Speaker 1:It was so hard.
Speaker 2:It was so hard.
Speaker 1:It sounds like in Vancouver there's a huge hike mountainous called the Grouse Grind. And it's like vertical Because it takes like an hour or so for some people to get up it. But people work out there every morning where they're trying to run up and see how fast they can do it. But I just Googled the 1000 steps along an abandoned railroad track.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It is insane and it was awesome. When you get to the top it's 360 views, breathtaking. I did a handstand up there. It was pretty cool, Damn.
Speaker 1:I'm jealous.
Speaker 2:I would recommend you to do it. The thing is that I was just so I don't know I go back and forth. I was talking about it with other people. I was doing it with it's like did it help us or hurt us that we were so unprepared?
Speaker 1:I think, almost like the I was naive and I didn't know what I was getting into.
Speaker 2:It's just like well, we might as well try. And then, by the time I realized that I was going to pass away, we were far enough in that it's like well, we might as well finish. So we just took our time. Nobody was trying to be a hero. My biggest problem was that I had a backpack with all my stuff for the beach afterwards, which was not light, so I made one of the guys that I was with Kariott. He was very nice gentleman. I was like thank you so much for doing that for me. But I say all that to say that I do recommend it. Just maybe don't drink a bottle of LaMarca the night before. And when you get to the top it is insane.
Speaker 1:Beautiful. It's worth it, you can see so far. It says that it's a challenging hike that will challenge not only your leg strength, but your will as well.
Speaker 2:It absolutely does, because you feel like you make progress and then you look up and you're like, oh my God, we've done nothing.
Speaker 1:I'm jealous. I want to do this hike so bad. You know me, I love that sick shit. You would love it yeah.
Speaker 2:And it was. You know, there are some people, like I said, who are working out, and even they were very tired, which made me feel a little bit better. I was like, okay, and I was with people that are, you know, retired athletes like myself, all the way down to people who have never worked out a day in their life, and we all made it up.
Speaker 1:It's like a railroad track that you're walking up that they built specifically for the hike. There's no trains going up there.
Speaker 2:I don't know the origin of it. Well, they do because, like, at the top there was a Christmas tree. So they use the railroad to basically maintain the path and also add signage and whatever. Yeah, so right there with that lady sitting, that's what I was saying. There's no ground underneath it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it's just a straight through down to like don't slip, because you will split that railroad beam and never be able to have children.
Speaker 1:That's wild. That looks awesome. I want to hike in Hawaii. I don't know which one it was. It was actually like a private one that they took us on and it was like you got to go through some guys backyard and through these like fences yeah, but those were the best ones.
Speaker 2:No, it was the best.
Speaker 1:Nobody was up there, but it was gorgeous, gorgeous, and I always say why is my favorite place on earth? I feel like once you get off the plane, it just like the air is just different, just feels different, smells different and, like we were talking about on the way in, you got the perfect mix of, like, a little bit of city, but it's also very chill, low key. You got the mountains to hike, you got the beach. You got a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2:I couldn't agree more. I don't know what my expectations were. I had never been to any Hawaiian islands before this. I don't know what my expectations were, but I do know that everything was surpassed because, like, we started in Honolulu, oahu, and then we moved to Maui. So that's when we were doing. We had a show there, but you know, we did a cat and ran day, I did the hike, we had time off. We did the same thing. There was a songwriter's festival that raised money for the Maui fires, and then we also had our own Old Dominion show, which, I do have to say, the crowds were not as big as what we have had on the mainland but they were twice as loud.
Speaker 2:Those people knew every word to every Old Dominion song, and Old Dominion has a song called Hawaii, which I have been looking forward to for the like entire 2023 to hear Hawaii in Hawaii. Yeah, it was like oh it like made me emotional.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:It was just. It's a lovely song to begin with and it's just such a groove, but then to see part of the thing that Matthew Ramsey, the lead singer, passes out Hawaiian lays during that song whether on the mainland or not, we did have to step up our game. Usually we do like a little party city flower lay when we're on the mainland.
Speaker 2:In Hawaii we did actual fresh flower lays and it was. I don't I feel like emotional doesn't really do it justice, but it was. I don't know. It's just so lovely to see, especially the people in Maui, the amount of people that thanked us for coming because they're like this is a really hard year for us.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I feel like that song was written about their home and they connected with that and it's just really beautiful and I was kind of surprised at how much I was like feeling it yeah. I was like, wow, this is so special for them and it's kind of one of those things that now we consume news so quickly that we almost get desensitized to things that are as tragic as Of course, because it's huge news for a week and then you forget about it but the people who were there can't forget about it, and it was just kind of putting a face with that tragedy and hearing and meeting people who lived through it.
Speaker 2:It just, it definitely changes your perspective. So I feel like that was probably the biggest surprise of my trip of being emotional about a song that I've heard 250 million times at every other show, but for some reason it was much different there, of course.
Speaker 2:And then we wrapped it all up. I extended my trip for vacation for about four days. Afterwards I went to the big island, kona. That was that's the one that I told you I could move to. It was exactly what I wanted, what I needed. We were supposed to fly out on Saturday night, we had a couple cocktails and we were just like you know what, let's extend our trip. How can we do this? Our goal was we had to do it for less than $500. So the tour manager and I and our assistant tour manager I feel like we could be on amazing grace because we kind of do that for a living and I was like we are going to figure this out for less than $500 for the two of us to stay for three and a half extra days.
Speaker 2:And we did it and we did it. Oh yeah, southwest points, marriott, bonvoy points. Thank you, that's why I collect them All the points. I cashed those in and we stayed for three and a half extra days at a Marriott there, and it was. I read two books. I got a little bit of a tan, my first tan in like a decade.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you're kind of tan.
Speaker 2:I know it's really hard for me to tan Sean Kind of tan. It's kind of it'll be gone by next week. So, soak it in for now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And yeah, that's a long-winded update of Hawaii and definitely stole my heart. I will definitely be going back Best.
Speaker 1:The drinks taste better too.
Speaker 2:Everything is better. I feel like I lost weight and I was eating and drinking like a fool, but everything was fresh Food's good. Yeah, I'm actually 80% ahi tuna right now. I can't tell you how many poke bowls in ahi tuna I ate over the last ten days. Don't call me that. You're staying with Ripcat today. You already named me. We're moving on.
Speaker 1:You know what they called me in Hawaii when I was there.
Speaker 2:I can only imagine.
Speaker 1:The waiters and the waitresses and service. They called me the Mai Tai Killer. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, my first dog as a child was named Mai Tai, so I feel like that resonates with me a little bit differently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but there is one day on the beach where I must have had like 18 of those things.
Speaker 2:Those are so sweet. How did you have 18? I don't know.
Speaker 1:I just stuck with it and I went with it all day. So the rest of the week they come in Mai Tai killer. So everywhere I went, they just give me Mai Tai's Like bring them all in.
Speaker 2:Wow, did you go there for your past life being partially famous on TV? Yeah, that was a VIP trip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was like the five, four seasons it just opened and really Nobody was in the resort, oh nice. It was us like, the staff and like, and the producers? No, no producers either. Oh damn, that was after the show oh, they were like, gave us a little trip and so we had, like, our own little beach and it was wild.
Speaker 2:Oh, look at you, you bougie. Yeah, Anyways, what have you been doing since I haven't? I when's the last time I saw you? I don't even know.
Speaker 1:Like the beginning of December, you saw a lot. I wasn't even at the house either, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I did After I left. Were you mad about that?
Speaker 1:Well, I wanted to see you and Locke, I know.
Speaker 2:I felt bad about that after, but I didn't really put it together because I was just so excited to meet Locke.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That I was like, man, I probably should have waited for Sean, but I didn't know when I was going to see you again. Yeah, and I wanted to meet the kid because then I knew that my January was weird and I'm like, oh my God, what if I don't get to meet him till 4th of July?
Speaker 1:I know, so I just freaked out. He's like six foot three. You come back, yes.
Speaker 2:So then I freaked out and I just called Dre and I went and you know what, not to knock you. I know that obviously your life has changed, but I have made it a habit for all of my friends that have procreated to really check in with them, on top of obviously meeting the baby I feel like with the excitement of bringing a child into the world. Sometimes I feel like the moms get a little forgotten.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:And so I was glad that I got that time with Dre.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm glad you guys had that time too.
Speaker 2:We had some Chick-fil-A and caught up and got to meet Locke. I held him for legitimately two and a half hours straight.
Speaker 1:I would not put him down. She's like you can put him down.
Speaker 2:I was like oh good, yeah, he's so little, he's a little, he's got the second. I picked him up and was like these are Sean Booth's legs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got my legs.
Speaker 2:I was like this is like weird. I feel like I was seeing you as a child. I was like this is. Sean Booth's leg and also he makes this. I feel like he has more of Dre's facial features, but he makes faces like you.
Speaker 1:That's what? Yeah, when you told me that and then when you show me the photos, I was like oh yeah, On your Instagram, yeah.
Speaker 2:I opened your Instagram and it was like you, and then Locke's was down here and whatever, and you guys were both making the same eyebrow. I can't do that because I have no talks, but the eyebrow, face and I was like, oh no, paternity test needed. We're good.
Speaker 1:I know it's wild, because I'm like I. Still, when I look at him, I don't see me, I don't see Dre.
Speaker 2:Yes, Like I can't. He's got Dre's nose for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's got Dre's nose. I think he's got my hair, obviously, I think he's going to have and he has blue eyes. And he's got really blue eyes. I think the crazy thing is how alert he is, though, right now, like he is just Way awake. Way awake. Like I posted a video yesterday. He just like he just sits there with me. He's just like looking at me and looking around.
Speaker 2:I did see he's looking at you like what are you doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's still like sizing me up, I know.
Speaker 2:But don't you? I mean, I don't think he really has thoughts yet, like I don't know the process of thoughts and when those come in, but, like, what is he thinking about?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:What is he absorbing?
Speaker 1:But you can ask Dre, he loves my voice Like he's been hearing that for forever. Yeah, it like suits him, and like when I walk in the room and then like I'll just come up to him and as soon as I get within the range that he can like, see, he just starts like smiling.
Speaker 2:How is Walter adjusting with locks in the house?
Speaker 1:Walter is good. I feel bad cause he's not. I don't feel bad, he still gets plenty of attention.
Speaker 2:Sure, but it's different. He's used to being an only child.
Speaker 1:It's different.
Speaker 1:Like he sleeps in the crate, because it's right, yeah, but it's like right next to the bed. He's been great with that, but before he'd kind of have free range and but he'd be jumping up and down on the bed and it's like our sleep wasn't that good. So he's really good in the crate and I bring him to work as much as I can and I just like usually I make him sit on that cot and now I'm just like you do whatever you want, buddy. Like when the class is getting started he's out there. When people are cooling down, I let him go out there. I'm like everybody, just love on him as much as possible, yeah, and he just loves it, so he's doing good.
Speaker 1:He's still like he loves his pacifiers, like he's always trying to get his pacifiers.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Like he always ends up with his pacifier in his mouth like 18 times a day. He's very gentle with him. He's kind of just like getting different, though.
Speaker 2:I was going to say it's a learning curve for the dog too, yeah. Yeah, is everybody else in the house?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he just hangs out with them, though it's good.
Speaker 2:It's good.
Speaker 1:It's not the first week or two was like really like nerve wracking because he's so big.
Speaker 2:And like not aggressive, but like he's a puppy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He likes to jump and play and swat and.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a goofball, so that's been good. But to your point about, like mom's getting forgotten, it's like I didn't realize how crazy it is to be a mom with a newborn, like she just that's a full time job. It absolutely is. And you know she's been doing great, fantastic, but she's at her moments. Like the past week he started to like get a little fussy this last week with sleeping. It's like he always. It's like we feel like he's just so hungry all the time so he feeds like every two hours. Yeah, he'll feed three, three ounces, four ounces, and then, you know, go on the tit for a little bit and then he wants more and then he's like fine, then he's, you know, another couple of hours go by and it's like he needs to eat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen statistics that breastfeeding is quite literally a full time job.
Speaker 1:Full time job.
Speaker 2:Which is terrifying to think about, if I were to ever be lucky enough to breastfeed. I don't understand how moms manage it. I really don't. I feel not that I've had my own children, but I obviously have had close friends that have been having babies left and right around me, and it's like you don't realize how much your parents loved you until you have your own children.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I feel that way right now and I haven't even had my own kids. I'm like holy shit, my mom and my dad were trying to make it work with and they were younger than. I was they had less than I have, and like all these things and still trying to keep you healthy, keep you happy, keep you on the road, keep you this.
Speaker 2:While managing their own. I think something else that I've learned, now that I'm an adult and I have a different relationship with my parents, is that your parents are also just their own people, so you think about they were also trying to manage their own thoughts and emotions and relationship together. How's that going? How's the teamwork?
Speaker 1:How's the? It's like all baby. Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 2:Do you feel like you and Dre together have changed for a good, bad or indifferent?
Speaker 1:I think we're a stronger team, for sure, but it's just like, yeah, it's just all baby, all baby, all the time, but to your point of like you don't realize how much your parents had to do. I was literally thinking last night. He's laying there just like crying and I was like I want to take out my phone and I want to show them in 15 years from now, being like the things that we were doing for you, buddy. And I mean it's a game changer. You learned so much and have you changed at all?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:What does that mean, though? Tell me more.
Speaker 1:No, like in the best way possible. I think it puts into perspective a lot of things in life and it's very I keep saying it's like almost like a calming feeling. I don't know why that is maybe because I thought maybe it wouldn't happen. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Now that it's like, ooh, nice, big deep breath, like I'm a dad, as I've always wanted to be a dad, so it's kind of like a comforting feeling in that sense, I think.
Speaker 2:Do you feel like so? I guess my hope for you. First of all, sean's wanted to be a dad since the first minute that I met him.
Speaker 1:Probably before that, I'm just saying that I don't know that since, like yeah, we were shopmen for eggs, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:So like that was like one of the first, I feel like, conversations we had, yeah, but I was hoping and I would like you to answer this but I was hoping that once you did become a dad, that the outside riffraff and noise, because you have a lot of riffraff and noise in your life just because of the personal and professional experiences you have, they just don't matter.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they are almost like in a calming way, not like oh, I don't care about anything, but in like this is much more important than any of that stuff that I feel like you internalize and stress about.
Speaker 1:Yes. Repeatedly Do you feel like you're getting a little better at that. Yeah, 100% for sure, and that was something too along like. This past year has been challenging for me for a lot of different reasons professional, personal and Locke's birth was always the North Star Right. I was always like, let's get there, like let's get there, like none of this is going to matter. Got to get to that point and it was true. And it's like things still matter, of course, but not to the extent.
Speaker 2:Your priorities are in the history, yeah, your priorities are changed for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's an awesome feeling, and at the same time, though, it's also like it's still, like you know, not that different either.
Speaker 2:Right you still go to work every day, at least I do and I mean your habits or your responsibilities outside of being a father are the same, but you are different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're a different person, right. But I think it's also like a lot of people, when they say you know, like I always hear marriage, everybody's always like, oh, how do you feel? And everybody's like I feel the same. It's kind of the same. Being a parent too, it's like, yeah, you've obviously changed for the better, I would imagine for most people. But also it's like it's kind of the same, like life goes on.
Speaker 2:But isn't that the goal? Yeah? Of course, Because you know, I do have people in my life that have procreated and it is all consuming almost in like a negative way. Like they stop being themselves as individuals and as a partner and as adults in society. First, and this it's only the baby and they don't leave the house and it's too much. And then I have friends that have a baby and they still show up to work.
Speaker 2:They bring the baby out with them and all those things, and I just I hope I mean who knows who I'll be as a mother. I hope one day that I lean a little more towards to like continue my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to work bringing the baby out, meeting the people, like, obviously within safe parameters.
Speaker 1:But just.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be the person that stops everything and just only becomes a mother. I still want to be Sammy first. Yeah, who knows if I will be that. I feel like everybody.
Speaker 1:I can hear the comments right now.
Speaker 2:Just wait, you don't know anything. Yeah, yeah, never claim anything. No, I mean, dre would tell you like.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's definitely you know what she wants to do and how she wants to be as well, and she still does work and she still does things for herself. Yeah, and this past week was nice because she had, you know, her best friend, Ashley, in town with her cute little baby. Oh my gosh, she's so perfect, Mila, and so I was like wait. So you're telling me at the house we're going to have two girls, two babies, a dog and a cat for a week.
Speaker 2:And she's like yep. You're like, oh, I have to go to school or classes, and so weird they just came up. We invented a new class. I worked a lot last week.
Speaker 1:And it was actually awesome because there Ashley and her baby were fantastic.
Speaker 2:It was a promise, baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and also it was good for Dre, you know. And so, like two days ago, I brought Dre and locks to the gym just to get her out of the house. She's like I've been out of the house once in the past, like week and a half, and it's your crazy. Yeah, and like a couple of weeks ago we hung out with our good friends McNabs and they're supposed to come over to our house and we're like hey, dre's like can we come to your place, just so I can get out of the house.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's a safe environment, so she doesn't have to stress about that. You're going to their house. It's like the perfect setup.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So yeah to your point. Definitely want to bring them around, continue doing what we do in our lives Right now. It's difficult with the winter season where you can't be around a bunch of people for like two months. They said so when I do bring them to the gym, I'll put them in like the back room, right? And she'll hang out there and then, like I, literally tell people to leave to the garage door so they're not all walking through the lobby.
Speaker 2:Perfect. I feel like that's a. What is it Like a compromise? I feel like, oh, I'm going to bring the baby out and try and acclimate it. Dre can come out. But it's like, okay, we're going to set a little bit of boundaries, yeah, so we're not just throwing our kids to the wolves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause I want to. I want to take him out everywhere, get him out of the way. I want to just take a trip, just get him on a flight soon. I yeah, I mean Travel with him.
Speaker 2:There was a brand new, brand new baby, probably the same age as us, on my flight back from Hawaii.
Speaker 1:And they're he was probably great.
Speaker 2:He was great, he was asleep and was on the dad's arm.
Speaker 1:The dad was just like walking up and down the aisle the whole time and but, you know, and I don't give a s*** If anybody wants to say anything about a baby crying or being upset on a plane. My whole rule in life is you can only get mad or upset about a crying baby on a plane if you were never a baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I agree with that I hate when people get upset about that. Like. Oh, I just like yeah, is it annoying?
Speaker 1:Of course it's annoying, but also like.
Speaker 2:But there's a lot of annoying things on a plane. I'll take the crying baby, yeah.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I also. I always am very empathetic to like. I think there's a okay, there's a fine line between, maybe, parents who are ignoring a child, who is disrupting. Yeah, of course, if you're ignoring them, but when a kid is having a meltdown and I can see the mom just like. Yeah, about to have a heart attack, and if you have a meltdown, I if it's in a grocery store, an airport or whatever it is, and they're actively trying their best. It's just like you know what kids are going to be kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But then I feel bad for the mom because I'm just like you know they're embarrassed.
Speaker 1:I know that's stressful. You know they're stressed out, you know it's just like.
Speaker 2:I'm like, hey, it's okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And if someone gives you a hard time, send them my direction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, we'll teach them a lesson. Like Charlie traveled California over the holidays with V and Ava and he was like everybody was just so nice to us. Well, I think there's a lot of empathy, yeah.
Speaker 2:And especially if you've had children yourself. You look at them and you're just like, oh okay, this could be a very stressful day for you, and sometimes babies are fun. But you never know, it's a gamble. Yeah, you're going to just bring locks out. He might be on his best behavior. You might just be like who is this child? Yeah, and that's the thing. I was talking to one of my teammates from college. She has a daughter. She's the cutest, maybe like almost two years old, less than that. But obviously babies change every single day. Kids change every single day and she's like one time when she was having a meltdown in the grocery store. People are looking at me like do something, and she's like I don't know who this is. This is the first time I've ever seen this side of my kid.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because they're changing and they're more over simulated. Whatever it may be that caused her to have the meltdown, yeah, so my teammate was like I don't know what to do. I've never seen this kid before, yeah, and now we're in public, like we didn't learn this at home, in the privacy of our own living room.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And we were like I don't know how to calm her down. This just happened in Kroger and it was just like all right, we're going to go for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to do it. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:I'm sweating thinking about that.
Speaker 1:It's a lot. It's a lot in the best way, but man, yeah, you got to like homework makes it work. You give your parents a high five Because whew.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but now the role is reversed and I'm taking care of them, so it's just like payback baby, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But I think the cool thing is too is like look forward to each stage. You never want to wish away them being this young. But it's also like, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait to hear his voice, yeah, his voice. So he starts walking around. I take a shower with him, which is so freaking awesome and it's. We've tried the bath thing the baby bath and it is pro tip a million times easier to just shower with them. Also, it's very slippery. You got to be like holding on tight.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, you're making me nervous. No, I mean it's like a freaking slippery watermelon basically, yeah, or a slippery like chicken.
Speaker 1:He loves it. He can be crying, he goes in the shower and just like I feel like he thinks he's back in the womb or something Like the warm water hitting him. It's awesome, way easier. I love it Pro tip.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, keep that in mind. But speaking of that, oh, okay. Dray's got to go back to work next week. That is, you know, something that I've never put much thought into his maternity leave, paternity leave, all of that, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, all right.
Speaker 1:I'll see you tomorrow. Okay, thank you, bye, bye, bye. Six weeks and she's going back to work.
Speaker 2:That's even less than I've. I thought it was like 12 weeks is the average or something.
Speaker 1:So there's all these different types of guidelines and I've been doing research on it right, and I think you can take up to 12 or 16 weeks if you're eligible in Tennessee.
Speaker 2:I think every state is maybe different with their rules, or maybe is it per company or per state.
Speaker 1:Both.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So if you're in a state like you, can take up to 12 weeks or possibly 16, if you've been at your job for a year, if you have over a hundred employees or small businesses, like we're at Drayworks, six weeks.
Speaker 2:And your body isn't even healed.
Speaker 1:To put this in perspective of how short that is and how absurd it is. I couldn't pick up Walter from his mom and dog breeder until eight weeks because Walter needed to feed from his mom. He's a dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so Dray's.
Speaker 2:I've never thought of it like that.
Speaker 1:How crazy is that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good little comparison there, booth.
Speaker 1:I was doing research. Canada Employees can take up to 18 months of maternity leave. The first 15 weeks are considered maternity leave and the remaining 61 weeks can be taken as parental leave, which can be shared between the parents. United Kingdom United Kingdom employees can take up to 52 weeks. The first 26 weeks are ordinary maternity leave and the remaining 26 are called additional maternity leave and each parent is entitled up to 480 days. Germany, 14 weeks long, starts six weeks before the expected due date and continues for eight weeks after the birth. That's kind of short. Australia is longer, everybody is longer than the US.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I've heard that. Obviously I haven't lived it, but I just I don't understand, I don't know. I have so many thoughts and opinions and confusions and it's part of the reason where I feel like sometimes I second-guess, maybe I won't have children is because it feels as though the way the system is set up in America is that you can't have it all. As a woman, I feel like I obviously have a unique job, so I wouldn't compare my current, but let's say I still worked at the record label. Something's got to give, something. I'm a full-time employee and a full-time mom and a full-time wife and a full-time adult and a full-time. Something has to give. You can't have it all, but I feel like there could be pretty simple steps or things put in place to make you maybe almost have it all, or you know what I'm saying. A little bit of help, like six weeks.
Speaker 1:Six weeks.
Speaker 2:You can't. Let's start at six months. That's still less than every other country that you just listed.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And at least at six months. I feel like that's when babies have a little more personality and they're a little more awake and alert and all those things. Box is obviously looking around right now, so he's maybe the exception to the role, but that kid is brand new.
Speaker 1:Brand new Feeds, like I said, every two hours. Also, your body is producing milk, so if you're not feeding him, you have to continue pumping.
Speaker 2:Which is going to take away from the job that you had anyway.
Speaker 1:They want you to go to the office and sit there, and then you have to leave every hour or so and pump.
Speaker 2:But where do you pump, Sean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:In the nasty ass restroom that everybody takes a shit in after their morning coffee.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's where everybody's pumping, yeah, like that, go pump your milk there, yes, but where else are they supposed to do it?
Speaker 2:In their car?
Speaker 1:Can't do it right in the open In their office?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just like so. I guess that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And then what do you do with the milk? Then you pump that and then where are you going to put that milk?
Speaker 2:Exactly that's what I'm saying, Like there could be little steps that feel very simple, Like I don't know an open office space with a locked door where a mother could pump if she does have to go back to work and not sit in a urinal. Yeah, there's like little steps that I feel like a lot of places just completely neglect. We don't think about it at all.
Speaker 1:Right, and I understand too from the small business side of it. I'm a small business owner. Maybe you don't have the budget and you need somebody there. There's got to be some type of assistance or there's got to be a way where you can say hey, let's just do the work from home.
Speaker 2:If you're already doing work from home, it's 2024.
Speaker 1:We had a year or two years of people from working from home. So it's like if you have a baby who is literally dependent on you, needs to eat from you, is comforted by you, like, make it happen, like, make it work. Now, dads do. I think it's necessary for dads to have leave, eternity leave, sure, to an extent, but not nearly as much as a mom. I think it's good for the dads to be there to support the moms, because even at this stage, what can I do? I feed them bottles, which are good, but I'm holding them, watching them while Dre has to do her thing, but for the most part, it's mostly the mom doing a lot of the work. So the dads, I'm not too concerned about give them some time, but the mothers, I think it needs to be at least a few months.
Speaker 2:Yeah. At least and the other thing that I've heard from my friends that maybe work in a little more corporate America setting is that sure you get 10 weeks for maternity leave, but if you want anything after that it's like half pay no, pay then you take all your vacation days, then you take all your sick days, all these things, and then you stack them up, and also not for nothing.
Speaker 2:But how disrespectful is it for a company? That's millions of dollars, all of these things like, yeah, you guys aren't hurting for money, and you're going to sit here and tell me that while I'm trying to keep my newborn child alive, I'm on vacation. That's my vacation days. That shit irks me. Yeah, who do you think you are? What part of this is a vacation? Yeah, I don't understand. It feels so unfair. You know kind of what we were talking about before we started filming too. Is that everybody's replaceable?
Speaker 2:So if you don't, wanna get back in the office, we'll find someone who will, which is horrendous. Especially I mean, I don't wanna get anybody in trouble, but like, especially in a small business aspect, you would think that you were more than a number Because it is a smaller staff and all those things that you'd make it a little more one-on-one like human interaction. Okay, this is a new mother, not just. Oh, this is employee number 379.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Take a second, think about it. Yeah, and how? I mean, I guess, if you're the head of a company, you never took maternity leave Because, like I said, you can't have it all. So if you, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what did you do?
Speaker 2:Obviously, there are women who are CEOs and juggle it all, but they typically have help and they have this and everything. It's just like I don't know. It's overwhelming. I feel like I'm up against odds, as is so it's so messed up.
Speaker 1:It's just one of those things in our country you're like God damn, figure it out. Let's figure it out. Mothers need more than six freaking weeks. My dog needed eight weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's a dog.
Speaker 1:She's not even cleared physically to do anything like her body like you said, is still recovering. It's still healing.
Speaker 2:That's a traumatic. That's, I mean, arguably one of the most traumatic events. Your body, from head to toe, is completely different. And not only that, but I was listening to this podcast that has really been trying to talk about the fourth trimester. Everybody talks about first trimester, you're sick. Second trimester, you're this. Third trimester, you're so uncomfortable you won't have a baby. And then it stops no, no, no. There's a fourth trimester that I feel like recently has become more prominent in social media and podcasting and all this stuff. And obviously I've only dipped my toe in it because I haven't become a mother myself, but I, like I said, I try and check in on my friends. How are you doing? How?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:feeling How's like can I get you anything? And then I was talking joking about the witches brew Alani nutrition drinks oh yeah, she drank a few sips of those. She was like I could only have like a sip here and there when I was pregnant, but, man, do I miss it. So I'm like OK, mental note to myself Next time I see Dre I will have one of those for her because I know how she can drink it, yeah, but no, don't give everyone, because she drank one.
Speaker 1:And then Locke's was like going crazy, like because she's feeling.
Speaker 2:OK, but then she can pump and dump and whatever, just give her a little bit of happiness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're trying. She wants the Alani nutrition. Yeah, give her that Alani.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's the same thing. I feel like when women have like a glass of wine, they're like I'll just pump and dump, but then again OK.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do you mean by pump and dump, like you're just going to pump it out? Yeah, that's insane, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So now, we have to work extra hard just to enjoy a fucking glass of wine. After I just pushed this baby out of me and like I'm recovering and I have to now think ahead Like God, being a mother is overwhelming.
Speaker 1:Congrats to you if you're a mom. Yeah, shout out to all the moms out there.
Speaker 2:For real. It truly is. It's truly never ending 24 seven, all day, every day, thinking 20 steps ahead of everyone around you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at all times.
Speaker 2:Including the male partners, or female partners, or whoever you may be, or?
Speaker 1:they are thems?
Speaker 2:Yeah, or they are thems, but don't be that. Well, I'm here, babe, I'll do whatever you want. Just tell me what you want. Bitch, I want you to just look around and figure it out. I'm already thinking 20 steps ahead of this baby that I just made, and I need to keep them alive. I can't keep you alive too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, it's a lot, I'm here, oh weaponized incompetence, oh real fresh. Yeah, it's a lot. So it looks like Locke's will be the front desk worker at BC. Gym for the next few months. If Dre's got to go back to her office, I'll hang out with him when I'm not on the road. Yeah shit, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I feel like I've gotten pretty good practice in the newborn stage and then I feel like if my friends live outside of town or something, I go and I visit them, obviously when the baby's pretty new, and then I don't really see the kid because we go back to our normal life and then all of a sudden I come back and the baby's walking and talking. So that little space in between newborn in, let's say, a year and a half Quick, it's quick, but I'm not very well versed in that. But I feel like I'm a pretty good learner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the other thing I keep thinking too. Mike goes by so freaking quick that it's like holy crap, it's going to be a year. You're going to blink. It's going to be a year from now and he's going to be walking.
Speaker 2:Yep and I can't wait to check his next strength.
Speaker 1:His next strength is great right now.
Speaker 2:No, I'm talking about. Then we start for roles, then we start doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to put him in gymnastics. It's a great sport.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fantastic for coordination, body awareness, core strength everything. It is. Yeah, Some of us stick around for 20 years after our mommy and me class. I don't know if I recommend that, but I definitely think every child should be in gymnastics for at least a spurt in their life. It just teaches you body awareness and some level of coordination.
Speaker 1:I was talking to a buddy of mine who's a football player, but at a big school and college, and he's got a son and he's like, yeah, dude, I want to put so-and-so in gymnastics. And I was like, because I asked him are you going to start playing football with him? And he was like probably four or five, I think.
Speaker 2:Oh OK.
Speaker 1:And he's like yeah, I'll do whatever he wants to do, but I really want to put him in gymnastics. He's like but also, when he starts getting this certain age, I also want to be like all right, buddy time to go, but what if he falls in love with it?
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:So he's like I'd still support him, but he's like. I'm not going to push him one direction, but if he ends up falling in love with gymnastics he'll be the best gymnastics dad. But he's also like all right, buddy, time to go play some football?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I do think so. I guess I don't know if you even have an answer to this. But what if Locke has absolutely no interest in sports whatsoever?
Speaker 1:Yeah, then whatever he is, he'll be fully supported. I joke with Dre. I'm like, if he wants to I don't know be a baton twirler. I'm like, then he'll be the best goddamn baton twirler out there. You know I'm not going to be one of those parents that force him. As much as I joke about it with sports and stuff, I'm like he's not going to want to be forced to do anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He'll rally against you. It's not going to be fun for him and, like the Sean Johnson episode that's stuck with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She's like your kid can only be good at something if they truly love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And now I think about dads who I see on social media. Are those crazy coaches You're just trying to live through your kid. Yes, it's insane, it's sad. It's so sad and so embarrassing, embarrassing.
Speaker 2:I just can't imagine ever acting like that. But also, I mean, I feel like you and Dre are pretty on the same page, but just more so than yourself acting like that. If you had a partner that was like that. Like what if I fell in love with someone? We have children, I don't know that side of him and all of a sudden we go to like the first team ball game and he's screaming at the 14-year-old ref. I'd be like oh whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, whoa, let's pump the brakes on this buddy.
Speaker 1:And I remember when I was a ref at 14 getting screamed at. I remember those dads by their names from my small town in Connecticut. Winsor-loss, Connecticut. I'm like, those guys are fucking losers.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, they are, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1:There's one dude I'll never forget it. I'm like he's screaming at me what's his name?
Speaker 2:Drop it right now on a global podcast.
Speaker 1:Mr Claffey.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, All right. This dude is screaming at me. His kid's like 12 years old. We're playing at Winsor-Loss High School basketball and I am literally it's a Saturday morning.
Speaker 2:And I'm 15 years old.
Speaker 1:And screaming as if it is the NBA finals.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and I'm like dude stop. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're a 50, 60-year-old man. It's gross. You're embarrassing yourself, right now and your child. And I remember the other ref was an adult and he was fantastic. He's like dude, like it's OK, yeah just fuck that guy.
Speaker 2:Who cares?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Mr O'Boyle was his name.
Speaker 2:He was great and he was like yeah, isn't it funny how those things stick out to you, though I still remember that. Yeah, I can remember.
Speaker 1:Because I was mortified. I'm like you're just screaming at me.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Because you're a 12-year-old kid, I don't know, maybe fouled or didn't foul the kid that I maybe was a block instead of a charge, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I was fucking 14 years old, but also, this is not make or break for anything in your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and guess what? His kid? He's not in the NBA right now. Guess what? He didn't go to college and play basketball either.
Speaker 2:And that was the last day that little Johnny played basketball, because of Sean Booth's ref skills.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'll never. I'll never be that guy.
Speaker 2:No, but I do get nervous, though. I feel like both of my parents were collegiate athletes my brother's collegiate athlete, I was a collegiate athlete Like we just athletics was what the four of us had. Yeah, that if I ever do have a child that is not into athletics not that it is a bad thing, but I am nervous that I'm like, oh my God, I don't really know much of anything else. Yeah, like I will have to learn alongside the child, which is fine. But like, if my kid wants to be a clarinet player, I don't know the first fucking thing about clarinet.
Speaker 1:But you'll lead them in the direction to find out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'll get them hyped up and we're going to be have like morning jams, like we're about to hit them notes.
Speaker 1:Like let's do it. Yeah, let's hit the notes.
Speaker 2:It will be on top of the learning curve of becoming a mother. I feel like that would be another learning curve that I am just unfamiliar with the landscape of things outside of afterschool sports.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, and the reason I do want my kids to play sports and, as you know, it is so good for them outside of just like physically, mentally, you're working on a team, right, and you also build these bonds, these friendships that you have for the rest of your life, like you go to school and you got a crew with you, you know, so you don't feel alone, so there's a lot of things like that. And maybe you might suck at it, but try it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I feel like a lot of the things that I look back. I mean, gymnastics took up all of my life. It's one of those sports that you don't really do like off season on season thing, it's year round. Yeah, I think one of the things that gymnastics taught me the most which I didn't even realize was teaching me at the time is that you don't always get what you want. Yeah, it does. Like I was training 30 hours a week.
Speaker 1:That's a great point, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was training 30 hours a week by the time I was in sixth grade, so I lived a very intense life. And guess what, even though I was training those hours, I didn't always win.
Speaker 1:Exactly that's what it teaches you. I didn't always walk away with feeling great.
Speaker 2:I still fell, I made mistakes, I let my team down, those things I feel like of all the highs that I had in gymnastics, the things that stuck with me and made me a productive adult were the lows, yeah, and you could like throw out a million motivational quotes about that, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like how losing is better than winning.
Speaker 2:Well, the cliches exist for a reason. Yeah, and let me tell you your first fucking job out of college, you will learn who didn't have those lows who didn't? Always get what they want. Because, let me tell you you think you hate group projects in college. Life is a group project, yes, so there's always going to be the dude that does nothing and takes all the credit, there's always going to be the but hurt person.
Speaker 2:that's literally never been told. No, there's going to be the person that's never lost the competition. With one second on the clock and you're on the line. Like there are those people and you immediately can identify them, if you have had that personally yourself. Oh yeah, and you're just like good luck and guess what, sometimes those people make more money than you, so it's really frustrating.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, the best and biggest quote that I've ever heard in my life is from my dad, and I'd always be upset Like, ah, that's not fair, that's not fair. You'd always say, sean, life's not fair, that's it always. You'd always say life's not fair.
Speaker 2:And it's true Since I was a little kid. It is true, yeah, and you know. Sometimes it's it hurts more than other times, but for the most part, I don't know I feel like more times than not, you don't get what you want.
Speaker 2:More, yeah, 90% of the time, yeah, so it's just like how do you deal with that adversity, change it, your outlook, your mentality? I feel like I've also been on a travel journey, obviously for 2024, I've been a Hawaiian resident only so I've had a lot of downtime to kind of think of, like, what I want to do this year, yeah, yeah, and also just moving forward, yeah, Time is. You said time's going fast. You have a kid. I feel like I don't even have a kid and time is already moving fast.
Speaker 1:So, but you're young, I'm not young. Oh my God, I'm not young. You're way younger than me.
Speaker 2:No, I know I understand in the grand scheme of life.
Speaker 1:I am young, but it's like holy shit am.
Speaker 2:I young, I know. Like I can't express to you, I've had a couple events. It was one event but a couple things. During the day when I first got back from Hawaii, we filmed a really cool event on CMT for the band Alabama.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And if you're not familiar with Alabama, they were the pioneers.
Speaker 1:They basically created the landscape of I was looking to see if they had their record over there, but no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were big in the 80s and 90s. They're still obviously very relevant, but they created our modern day touring system for country music. So what my job is now? The ball started rolling with them. Great event. I laughed, I cried, I clapped, I danced. It was very emotional, it was very touching. But it was on Belmont's campus, Beautiful campus, Like yeah, no wonder it's $70,000 a semester to go there. The amount of times these freaking college kids were like interning the event were making me feel like I was 33 years old.
Speaker 2:Just like little things they're like oh, when you were in college. Like, oh, oh, my God, yeah, my dad had a blackberry. Oh, yes, ma'am, like things like that. I'm like, oh God, those are the type of things that I'm like oh, to the outside world, I do look older or I do, I don't know. Like I remember when I was their age, someone who was 33 was like whoa.
Speaker 1:And now I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm still you this Belmont intern who's working this event?
Speaker 1:You never feel like you're going to be that age or feel that old.
Speaker 2:Yes. But then when the 19 year old like little intern boy was like yes, ma'am, I was like, oh my God, I'm a woman.
Speaker 1:to him I'm a lady. It's like every other gym. Call me old man booth. They start calling me old man booth when I was younger than you are right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you also act like an old man, so it's different. I get it, but I do. I think. When I met you, you seemed so much older to me and I was younger than I. You were younger than I am right now. That's wild to me, I'm like oh yeah, he's a business owner and he's 30, whatever. And now I'm like he didn't have his shit together?
Speaker 1:No, never will, but nobody does. Let's be honest, nobody does. Let's finish this up. Final four.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, we're throwing it on you. We're also going to take a turn here. Oh God, all right.
Speaker 1:Final four favorite things about the snow. This week it's snowed in Nashville, tennessee. It is my favorite weather and we were talking about this earlier. It's snowed on like Sunday night or Monday and the city is just completely demolished, demolished, demolished, debilitated, and I never used to understand why when I first moved here, I'm like these P words, like it's at a quarter inch of snow.
Speaker 2:You said the F word three times this episode, but you're going to draw the line up. Yeah, I'm going to draw the line there.
Speaker 1:Okay, and they. We just don't have plows or trucks that put salt down, nothing. So it stays cold, it'll snow, and actually this was a pretty big snow, so when we got like a half of foot, this was impressive.
Speaker 2:That's big for Nashville yeah.
Speaker 1:But it snows and it's. The snow is not the problem, it's that it gets so cold for the whole week, like we're at. One degree is two degrees, and everything turns to ice. And they do not take care of the road. So if you do not have four-wheel drive, you will end up off the side of the road. I see it every time it snows here. I'm like this person, you know, who's from Mississippi, trying to drive to the freaking grocery store, and their Honda Accord ain't going to make it, no, and they don't know how to drive the snow. So I'm in my element. As you know, I grew up in Connecticut, new Hampshire. The snow is my favorite and that's why we're going to go final four favorite things about the snow, starting with Sam Kat.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, thank you so much for giving me 30 seconds to come up with this list of things. So I'd say my number four would be the silence. So when you walk outside when it's snowing, everything is like muffled and it's just so peaceful and it doesn't exist in any other atmosphere Like that specific silence is subject to a fresh snowfall.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad you said that that was on my list as well. I'll put that number four, that is. I was talking about this the other day. I'm like it's the best you go outside at nighttime too, when it's snowing. It's so silent and it's the best. It's comforting, and alongside of that I'll say the smell.
Speaker 2:Like you can smell when the storm's coming. Have you ever watched Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 1:No, I haven't.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, lorelai Gilmore. She says I smell snow.
Speaker 1:It's like her tagline, so I was out in the backyard there they're just hanging out just like looking up and just like yes, it's snowing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll go for it for that as well.
Speaker 2:Number three Number three I love if you go out and you play in the snow. Obviously it's cold, you're bundled up in all of these things, but if you sit in the snow, it's warm, it's comforting, it molds to your body, it's like before you make your snow angel. If you just sit and relax in it, I feel like it kind of goes hand in hand with the silence. Very relaxing, yeah. Hanging out in the snow yeah, obviously there's a lot of things like snowboarding and skiing and all that stuff that come with snow. That's great, right. Just chilling in it, yeah, not bad. Chilling in it's good If you're dressed appropriately.
Speaker 1:Gotta be dressed appropriately, which that's my number three Dressing up for snow. You can put on your boots that have been sitting in the garage all year. You can put on your car heart overall pants, your big jackets, your beanies, your gloves that are in the closet, at least for us. I can only take out once a year. Like getting bundled up and feeling warm, but also being out in the cold is a fantastic feeling.
Speaker 2:I do. I got really cool leather gloves that you can use your phone with like two winters ago and I've worn them twice I got to bring them back out this week it felt good.
Speaker 1:It does feel good Okay.
Speaker 2:Number two. My number two is going to be snow scream.
Speaker 1:Okay when you make your own homemade ice cream with the snow. I thought you were talking about like snow scream, like yelling.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, Snow scream.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You go out, you scoop it. It's like vanilla condensed milk. There's a bunch of different ways you can make it. Blend it all together, put some chocolate chips in it and it gets the consistency of ice cream. What's fresher than fresh snow?
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 2:It's fresh ingredients to begin with, so let's just absolutely capitalize on that.
Speaker 1:Snow scream. Let's make a business. My number two is driving. I fucking love it. You also love doing-. That's the four time I use the F word and I love driving in the snow.
Speaker 2:Like I no, you love doughnutting in the snow. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love it. I go out when I start snowing. The other night Drey's like where are you going? I was like I got to go to the gym and set up and she's like, no, you don't. I'm like I do, but also I want to go drive around because nobody's out on the roads. It's like late night and the snow's coming down hard and every single corner.
Speaker 1:I take you're just jamming that gas and then turning the wheel, fish tailing it, fish tail around every single corner, going to the parking lot, doing 360s. That's what we did as kids.
Speaker 2:Do you remember I mean it might have been 22 was our last snow storm, but you, I believe it was you when you still had your truck, the other truck, yeah, the jeans, and you guys were like snowboarding behind your truck out in front of the gym. Jack, yeah, I was going to say I remember Me, Jordan and Jack, there was a group of you.
Speaker 1:We took the TRX handles.
Speaker 2:Yes, no, I it was the most ghetto setup ever, but it was a great video and it looked like fun.
Speaker 1:We were going around the block and he was just like on the roads, because again there's no plows here we had our buddy just snowboarding, nice Number one.
Speaker 2:My number one, which I feel like is a lost art because technology has changed. It is the feeling of a snow day.
Speaker 1:That was my number one, the NFL draft feeling at the bottom where you're waiting for your school to go by, yeah, yeah, and that, like I'm sure now, as a parent, you're probably like okay, yeah, for sure, we'll all stay home.
Speaker 2:Great, yeah, you know that never processed in our mind because we were staying home. Yeah, it's a snow day.
Speaker 1:The feeling of like. I don't have to do anything tomorrow, whether it's work like here in national school, because it's like I don't think it's shut down.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's like the middle of the week, so I get up at four in the morning. The anticipation of the next day, of it being an absolute nothing day is awesome yes. And we just had the ticker in Connecticut and we had 60 minute delay, 90 minute delay, half day, and you would get up with your siblings and sit in there just fucking praying.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Fifth time I said the F word, praying that you would see Winsor-Lachs, connecticut public schools.
Speaker 2:Right, no school. And then when?
Speaker 1:that like went across the bottom.
Speaker 2:It was like literally Christmas morning, yeah, then. Then you start the process of getting dressed for the snow and then everybody's outside at 7.15 am. Oh, none of these kids have been this pumped to go to school or been this awake at 7.15 am the whole year. Yeah, but on a snow day, baby, we're up in Adam.
Speaker 1:And your parents like they're probably like shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like what am I supposed?
Speaker 1:to do. Well, that's how I am right now, because I got to get to work, because we had a snow morning, but not this afternoon. We're back to work. I got to go coach class, samcat awesome to have you back. I can see the back of your ass and thigh through those jeans right there.
Speaker 2:Don't look Like the boomer in me hates it.
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