In The Booth with Shawn Booth

Inside The Delivery Room (w/ OB-GYN Dr. Pooja Sangani & Dre)

Shawn Booth Episode 32

IT’S A BOY!! Join Shawn & Dre as they recount the miracle of Locks's arrival with Dr. Pooja Sangani, the incredible OB-GYN whose hands welcomed him into the world. Together, they breakdown the delivery, from the tense anticipation before the epidural to the symphony of skilled professionals who orchestrated Locks's debut. They share the heartfelt audio capturing the moment Locks was born, allowing you to experience the raw and powerful emotions firsthand. You’ll also hear what song Shawn kept on repeat when he thought it was a girl that was going to come out!

As they close the chapter on their first couple of weeks as parents, they reflect on the myriad decisions that shape the newborn experience, from feeding choices to deciphering the world of diapers. They'll leave you with a glimpse into the personal stories that influenced Locks's name and a peek at the light-hearted mishaps that come with the package of new parenthood. They answer your questions from Instagram and Dr. Sangani's wisdom infuses the conversation with warmth & expertise!

CHAPTERS:

0:09 - The Journey of Becoming Parents

8:30 - Labor and Epidurals

14:44 - The Delivery Process

28:46 - Emotional Birth Experience

37:41 - Perspective on Pregnancy and Postpartum Recovery

42:46 - Thoughts on Having a Baby Boy

54:33 - Inducing Labor, Epidurals, and Gender


Speaker 2:

We are back in the booth and I'm Sean Booth and this is a very special episode. You guys, we are officially parents. Locke's booth arrived last week and we have had the greatest week ever. We're going to get into all of that, and with me today in the studio we have the lovely mother herself, trey Joseph, who is recovering greatly. And, very special guest, we have Dr Pooja Sankani, who helped us deliver the baby, so she was there for it. It has been the absolute best ride ever. We've got your questions. We're going to dive into everything, get into Pooja's background and take you behind the scenes maybe not too much behind the scenes with the delivery and get into all that fun stuff. So here we go, kicking it off in the booth. Dr Sankani, how long have you been in OB-GYN for?

Speaker 3:

Technically probably six and a half, seven years almost now.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and is this something?

Speaker 3:

you've always wanted to do. No, I thought I was going to be a doctor since I was really young, but OB was never on my radar whatsoever Really Never and I was going to be a pediatrician through and through. Then I got to med school, and when you're in med school, you do these rotations where you try to figure out what you want to be, and I quickly learned that Peds was not one could not deal with it, and so I fell in love with OB. That was my next rotation and loved it. You know it. Just, there's a lot of different things about OB. You get to be in the office with patients, you get to deliver babies in the hospital, and then you also get to be in the OR and do all the surgeries that are associated with it. So a lot of different things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so I think that it is a very high stress level job, like it is a very crucial thing to deliver a baby. There's so many things that can go wrong, and this is something that Dre and I have talked about for the past week now is that we feel so fortunate, so blessed and lucky that everything went right for us to have our lovely kid with us, where we're like man. So many things have to go wrong. Do you feel a lot of pressure with your job?

Speaker 3:

I mean it's definitely a high stress. However, most of the time 90% of the time OB is really fun, really happy, and then the 10% of the time where it's you know things can go wrong. That's when it becomes stressful for, but for the most time that's what we're trained to do is to deal with all of the issues that come along the way and we always work with, you know, great nursing staff, great other staff members that are there that really support us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and great nursing staff cannot be understated. We were at St Thomas and they had the absolute best nurses Every night day shift. Everybody was fantastic. It made us feel right at home and, dre, you can attest to that as well. From the first night we got there. On Monday night we went in at eight o'clock and you went in to get induced.

Speaker 4:

On my due date.

Speaker 2:

On your due the night before. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

The night before because we wanted to come on the due date.

Speaker 2:

So a lot of yeah, a lot of people have asked what the decision making process was behind that, and it's something that me and you have talked about and it's a lot of discussions that we've had with Dr Sangani. I think I've probably had more questions. Every time we met with her. She's probably like all right, this guy's annoying, but always trying to like, make sure we're doing the right thing, Because there's so much information out there. And a question for you, doctor when people are trying to get inductions, what do you recommend, Like case by case? But I've heard a lot of people say that you want to wait longer for the baby to develop instead of trying to rush things before their due date. Is there any accuracy to that?

Speaker 3:

Well, I mean it's again by case by case. If there's some sort of medical indication, like if you have high blood pressure or diabetes or something wrong with your placenta or something like that, where you need to be delivered earlier, whether it be, you know, early terms at 37, 38, 39 weeks and we do it Some people you don't have to be delivered at 34 weeks, so it just all depends. But normal, healthy pregnancies, anything after 39 weeks is totally fine. Elective inductions, elective C sections, all of that is fine, do you?

Speaker 4:

feel like elective inductions are becoming popular, Like do you have a lot of patients that want to do that?

Speaker 3:

A lot of patients do want to do that. A lot of patients want to schedule a time just because everything is so unpredictable and so it makes it a little bit like you're controlling when things are coming and get a lot of times when people have other kids too, they kind of get childcare straightened out, and so lots of different reasons. But yeah, it's definitely becoming more popular.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I wanted to go at 39 weeks, but that over here didn't want to take them out any earlier.

Speaker 4:

Not that I think there's a huge difference between 39 and 40. Not a whole lot. But we let them cook all the way. I didn't want them to overcook because I think I definitely would have gone for another few days, although I was a lot more dilated than anticipated and contracting more than I think I even realized when we went in. So that's always helpful, I know. I think that's what helped speed the process up. But a lot of people are telling me when I had said that I was going to go get induced you know, of course people on the internet love to give their opinion that don't do it, it's going to be so much more painful. I wish I wouldn't have done it. Let them go. But isn't there also a danger of like? Once you hit 40 weeks, risk of something happening start to increase the longer you go after your doodling.

Speaker 3:

Right. So the risk of stillbirth goes up after 41 weeks and definitely much more after 42 weeks. I think there's differences with inductions depending on where you start with your induction. So you started at 40 weeks, but your cervix was actually what we call favorable, meaning you had already started, you know, dilating somewhat, and so that makes the process a little bit easier. A lot of people will deal with inductions that are very, very long. Yours from, I think, start to finish, was less than 24 hours. So a lot of people is that beginning stage is just 24 hours and then they start getting into the real active labor part. So it's very exhausting for some people.

Speaker 4:

Because they say the longest part is from zero to the first, like four or five centimeters Six centimeters, yeah, and then you're inactive.

Speaker 3:

Which is true because I sped up Right and I was like we're all quick after that. It was crazy yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because you came in and you were four right, and we got there around eight nine PM and then you were just hanging out.

Speaker 4:

We were in our room and they gave you.

Speaker 3:

Side attack.

Speaker 2:

Side attack. What's the first one?

Speaker 3:

When you first came, I think we started with side attack. I think we were like two-ish, and then you got to four immediately after that first dose, and then we gave you some pitocin and the nurse said it.

Speaker 4:

She was, like you know, you're contracting a couple of times within 10 minutes. I was like oh really, I had no idea, yeah, and then the side attack did pick them up. The pain picked up. I was having to breathe through them, but it wasn't anything I couldn't handle. Right, I just said before we get to anything.

Speaker 3:

I can't handle. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4:

Might as well, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so we were in the room and it's probably two in the morning and trying to lay down. I'm like all right, I'm gonna try and get like some sleep here, and those couches weren't terrible, I'll say. A lot of people were telling me bring your own blow-up matches. I'm like I will never bring my own blow-up matches I feel like you would judge me, everybody would judge me and be like all right, this lady's about to give birth, this guy's got a blow-up king matches over here.

Speaker 2:

It'd be insane. So I was finally getting some shut-eye and I was up at four in the morning that day working, and then the night nurse comes in. She's like I just want to check you one more time. And then she goes to check you and she's like whoa, we've got a full head of hair. And we were both just like that, just sent shockwaves throughout my body, adrenaline kick, because it was like the first thing we actually knew about her baby. We don't know if it's a boy or a girl, but we knew that the baby had hair. And the night nurse was like this baby is probably going to be here before the end of my shift and I was like what time does?

Speaker 4:

your shift end.

Speaker 2:

And she's like 7 am I? Was like holy crap, here we go. Didn't come that early, so then we were up for the rest of the night. And then at what time did you get the Tosin? Tosin, that's like the money stuff, right?

Speaker 4:

Do you usually wait until people are a certain amount dilated before you get Tosin?

Speaker 3:

At least three centimeters or so. It all just depends. It's all witchcraft that we do back there. We'll give a little bit of this, a little bit of this, see what works, kind of thing. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I know she did come in and say that she could feel the head of hair through the cervix and she said my cervix was thinning. Well, and then the minute that they she called you and you said okay, we'll go ahead and start the first dose of Tosin. And it was at that moment that I said no, I don't think I need to feel Tosin contractions, I'm all good. So that was around probably five in the morning. We called for the epidural.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's what you were most nervous about I was most nervous about that.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, labor was not a big thing. No, just the epidural, just the epidural.

Speaker 4:

I'm not kidding, the pushing, the tearing, all of that I was not worried. But I was really worried about the epidural and that was probably the worst part, but then it was magic.

Speaker 3:

Right, it is magic it worked.

Speaker 4:

But of course I've heard horror stories. I mean, I had a really good friend who it failed three times and she ended up going in under general because they couldn't, you know, she went in for a C-section and all this, you know this terrible things. Like we said that so many things have to go right but. I mean that epidural was the lady who came in and did it was incredible, right, I mean absolutely incredible.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we have great anesthesia staff.

Speaker 4:

They're 24-7 and so yeah, they're great, she was quick and it's just. You know, you're not used to feeling something going into your back Right, and the thing that hurt the worst was the numbing shop, right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because once you're numb and then it's just a lot of pressure. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so, and that thing did it work.

Speaker 2:

And that's something that you kind of leave up to the patient if they want epidural or not.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And benefits are obviously you don't feel much. Cons are also you don't feel much.

Speaker 3:

Right, yeah, yeah, that was fascinating. So it can be like plus or minus. Like, especially when you're like pushing, some people like to feel it or help them feel it, so it helps them have a target to like how to push and where to push. I could say Others it does the opposite. It doesn't help them relax at all, so it actually prevents them from delivering quicker Really. So it can kind of go both ways for them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Also, you have to think about like after the baby's out and then you have a tear to fix and all of that. Yes, yes, yeah, some people don't realize and okay, you now don't have enough epidural and so now we have to numb you, and things like that. So they usually we try to get pretty good, adequate pain control, but it's not as good as an epidural when it comes to that.

Speaker 4:

Because when I through the chaos of everything jumping forward and then we'll jump back. But about you stitching? I looked down and saw you doing that, but in that moment I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so thankful of that. Right, I can't feel anything because it's so crazy and things are moving around, but I wouldn't have even known you were doing anything unless I looked down and you were just going like, and it was quick, yeah, and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so fast. And yeah, epidural was a wild experience. I couldn't move my leg from one end of the bed to the other.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it worked like a charm.

Speaker 4:

Highly recommend Team epidural yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so, during this process, what are you doing? So, when you're on call, you obviously got to be close to the hospital, and so, for somebody like us, we've worked with you for months prior, and so we let you know what time we're going in and you're just kind of on standby working with other patients during the night, or, like during the night, you're sleeping near the hospital.

Speaker 3:

So I live about 12, 15 minutes away from the hospital. We have access to like looking at everything at home, so on my laptop I can look at what your baby looks like the entire time. Oh wow, and so periodically I will check. The nurses are also out at their desk. They only have one to two patients max and so it's very much like one-on-one care, and so they look at all of the look at the strips at all times and if they are concerned then they will also call me if at any point when I'm not looking at it or whatever it may be, but yeah, so we're all trained in the same way, to look at these in a certain way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Because I think it's always like a little nerve wracking because I immediately go to, I believe, the movie's father of the bride and when they go there and the guy, they have the wrong doctor and they're like who is this guy? And like the other doctors out of town. So it's something I've always wondered. I'm like you just got to be close by. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

You got to be close by. We also have a hospitalist in-house at all time, so we have a doctor that works there, a laborist, that is there 24 seven, and then there's also another one there that works in the GYN emergency room area too. So there are two doctors there at all times if you need any help for an emergency.

Speaker 3:

Because, sometimes that happens I fight a kind of the doctors yeah, and then through the emergency room and needs to be delivered immediately, or there's an emergency of some sort and the main doctor's on the way, but it needs to be done quicker than that.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, interesting, interesting, yeah. So that was kind of a peaceful night and then I was going back and forth to the waiting room where some of our family was, and then there was another couple there and it was Sean Johnson's parents.

Speaker 2:

And it was just us and the Johnson's in the East, and they actually delivered a baby boy literally two doors down from us the same morning, which was fun. So every time we're going back and forth to the waiting room, me and Andrew would run into one another, which was super cool. And so now you had the pitocin, and that's when we started feeling like things were really starting to pick up.

Speaker 4:

I wasn't feeling anything, yeah.

Speaker 3:

You were just, but it was kicking in.

Speaker 2:

But it was kicking in, yeah, and you could see on the screen right, the contractions on the screen. Yeah, and so then you're trying to wait for the contractions to get closer, is that correct? Mm-hmm, okay, and how long do they typically last? I?

Speaker 4:

don't know, I couldn't feel it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, 30 seconds to a minute usually, okay yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so Dr Sangani is in and out, just super casual. We're just like super casual hanging out Playing music. Yeah, playing music. And then the nurse who was the day nurse was fantastic, who helped you pushing.

Speaker 4:

She was amazing.

Speaker 2:

Fantastic, amazing, when did we start pushing again?

Speaker 4:

Well, they came and checked me and I was about seven, or maybe you did, I can't really remember now.

Speaker 3:

I broke your water at some point too.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you broke the water.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:

And then it was like which I could feel that little.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was pretty easy.

Speaker 4:

It was literally like a pop. Yeah, it was wild.

Speaker 2:

And then so that you were around seven at that point yeah.

Speaker 3:

And you want to wait for them to get to nine or 10 to start pushing 10.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, so from seven to. I remember we were.

Speaker 4:

So quick.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, super fast.

Speaker 4:

And she kind of looked at the screen and she said it looks like you're progressing Right, so I'm going to check you one more time. And then she was like oh, you're at nine and a half. And I remember I was so relaxed I was sitting there like oh, and then I got super emotional.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 4:

Not because I was like nervous or anything like that, it was just oh, this is happening right now. We're about to start pushing.

Speaker 2:

Very emotional. Yeah, you start crying. And I was like, all right, I got to change out of my crocs. I'm like I don't want my babies to be wearing crocs when they first come out. I was like I need to eat food because I started getting nervous because everybody's like don't pass out. And I was like super pumped up. I drank a Celsius and I was like all right, don't pass out.

Speaker 4:

He's a pacing, he's a pacer.

Speaker 2:

Pacing and I was like starting to get emotional and so it was like go time. So we were with that nurse and pushing for like an hour, hour and a half and so when you started pushing she was doing like three sets of 10 seconds, like counting down from 10, nine, eight, and you're not really feeling anything.

Speaker 4:

No, I could see how women who don't want to epidural because they want to be able to feel that you're bearing down, because I could, at the beginning of a push and almost faded away and I was getting so discouraged because I said, oh, there's just no way I'm doing anything. But luckily I had my doctor and my Baby daddy, basically the other doctor who was in the thick of it way more than we thought he was gonna be.

Speaker 3:

He was like I'm gonna be back here and there he was.

Speaker 4:

right there he looked one time I remember when they, even when they asked you, they all crossed my mind like, okay, he's gonna look, because I didn't have a mirror there yet and you didn't leave. I know I was in it.

Speaker 2:

It was the weirdest, wildest thing ever, I think, because it's obviously when it's your kid, it's a different situation. But when I first got into the room I like kind of got a little like nervous because I walked over to the bed and she was sitting there. I was like, oh wow, like I'm gonna be able to see everything, like this bed's really short.

Speaker 2:

And I was like maybe I'll stand a little bit further back. And then I remember when you were pushing and I wasn't watching, I wasn't looking, and then one of the nurses said do you want to look, dad? And I was like all right, like put myself up, and I took a look and I was like all right, that's not that bad. And I could see so like the head kind of just coming out a little bit like the top of the head. It got to that point and then it'd come in top of the head and so from that point on I would just like staring down there.

Speaker 2:

It's hard not to look right I was tapping my arm and nodding yeah, and it was amazing, it was wild, it was the craziest thing and we were pushing for an hour and a half, I'd say.

Speaker 4:

I would get discouraged because I just kept saying, am I doing anything? And he would, at the end of push. He'd be like you really made progress. That was a good one.

Speaker 2:

And so you're like kind of just hanging close by, yeah, and then the whole point is to get past the pelvic bone right the pubic bone. Okay, so she was having a little bit trouble getting to that point, and you started getting discouraged.

Speaker 3:

That's the hardest part, though.

Speaker 2:

How long do people typically push for?

Speaker 3:

I mean, it varies it can be 30 minutes. It could be four hours, yeah, so you were right there, I mean an hour and a half for a first time. Mom is great, it's great.

Speaker 4:

If someone would have told me I was going to push an hour and a half in my brain, I would have said that is the longest my time Crazy. In the moment feels like now. Looking back feels like 20 minutes. It's just so much happening. It did not feel like an hour and a half, Even though I was like, oh my gosh, are we getting anywhere?

Speaker 2:

Are we getting anywhere? Still do not feel that long, yeah, so we are pushing, and then finally, you get that last push.

Speaker 4:

And I can feel it, you can feel them pass.

Speaker 3:

Right Once you pass that pubic bone. It's really hard not to feel the pressure.

Speaker 4:

You're like don't bear down, I'm like he's coming, he is there.

Speaker 2:

And this was my favorite part and I keep telling people it reminded me of a NASCAR Indy car pit stop, you just started throwing scrubs on, like carts are getting wheeled in and there's the kind of running around. It's like holy crap, it's happening.

Speaker 4:

He's like putting on the shirt and putting on the boots. It's very emotional. It's a whole fit.

Speaker 2:

It was so quick and then at that point, from then till delivery, it was probably only a few minutes.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was like four big pushes yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, on your end, you're getting ready and you are obviously looking for the head to come out first, which we knew was going to happen. Is there anything else? You're thinking at that point like what could go wrong, or you're just like, once you get that head, you're ready to pull the baby out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean we essentially a few things can go wrong, like tearing of course, so we try to make sure we protect your perineum during that part.

Speaker 4:

But did you think slower wins the race when it comes to that?

Speaker 3:

Right, because the more you stretch, the less immediate tear. And then of course there's always that risk of the shoulders getting stuck or something like that, but there was no issue with little locks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it was like this is Sean's favorite part. It was wild because also there was a nurse and it was so funny because, like thinking back at it, it was hilarious because she was standing there. She goes, I think it's going to be a girl, and then nobody said anything to her, and then we're all like, and she's like I don't know what it is. Yeah, we kind of looked at her like maybe she thought she knew what it was.

Speaker 2:

And so she goes. I think it's going to be a girl and from where I'm standing I just see the head coming out and the head coming out on the head and the head. That is the longest head.

Speaker 2:

I've ever seen because I didn't prepare myself for the cone shaped head. So all I saw was the back of the head and then head turns and then my heart sunk because the baby's not breathing yet and eyes are just closed, mouth is closed, not really moving. And then I felt like you just like went in there real quick. I thought his shoulders were stuck, but you're saying the shoulders weren't really stuck.

Speaker 3:

No, you just kind of guide the baby out.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, Okay, so then you got him out, and then she's like you see, sean in the video he stands up really straight and looks down at the baby because he says the baby's just like yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, cause they're not, are they not? They still haven't taken their first breath yet, right, don't you have to, as?

Speaker 3:

they come out, they do, yeah, but they look really still and like, yeah, Not making any noise, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and she's like all right, are you ready, dad? And then she just turns the baby over. And I was super nervous because our friends had a few babies and they didn't find out the gender until that moment as well. And the dad was talking to us. He goes for one of my girls. I didn't know what it was he's like, couldn't tell if it was a penis or a vagina and I had the doctor was like are you ready, dad Call it out.

Speaker 2:

And he's like I don't know what it is, Can you like help me? So I was like all right, I got to focus here. I got to focus and the whole time I'm thinking it's a girl, I'm thinking it's a girl and the greatest showman song comes on.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I don't know Anyone in the room notices, but I kept on rewinding it because I was like this is such a good song, it's such like a powerful song. This is me. I'm like the lyrics were fantastic. I'm like I want a girl to come in here like a strong, proud woman, like all this.

Speaker 4:

He kept rewinding it, yeah, and I was like I don't know what song was next either.

Speaker 2:

I was like nervous, like like Nelly would come on right after that, like, and I'm like I want her first song to be really cool, and it's like this is me. Here I am, and so then she turns them over and I'm like, oh my God, that's a penis, like immediately. My eyes just went there and we'll play the audio for you right now.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my goodness, I need her. You're over. Oh my God, oh my God, what is it? The locks is here. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. I'm never a rat. We're just friends, right, oh my God, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, dad you ready? Yeah, oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 3:

Right in the middle there, right in the middle of the floor.

Speaker 1:

You have a boy.

Speaker 3:

One more.

Speaker 1:

One more. We're gonna get him up on your chest here. Okay, what's that about? I can't hear you what. I don't want to fall in the snow. Oh my god, oh my god, what? Oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god.

Speaker 4:

Oh my god, you couldn't get the words out.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't get the words out because I was so shocked. I was like what is it? Dad and I'm like it's uh Box is here.

Speaker 3:

It's just complete, the coolest thing, yeah, and your face was way more shocked than I anticipated, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

It was a girl.

Speaker 4:

There was just so many things that pointed to girl. People were telling me that it was a girl. We thought that you accidentally told us that it was a girl, and there was just all of these things and it was like a gut thing I thought I had. And then when he said that all I kept saying was no way, no way, no way. Over and over and over and over, and I was like I probably sound like Psycho, but there's just no way.

Speaker 3:

You're like I always wanted a boy.

Speaker 4:

I can say this now. So sweet, I always wanted it to be a boy. So bad and I'm so thankful.

Speaker 2:

And so in that moment, for you that must be fun, because you're the only one there who knows what it is, and you thought that we thought it was a girl. And then, shortly after we even said something to you, you're like I wouldn't slip, I would never slip.

Speaker 4:

Did you just laugh at us every time, the knowing that we thought it was a girl.

Speaker 3:

I mean you just go along with it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because now you look back at the clip that we posted.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so do you just resort to he or she, or just come up I honestly, don't even remember saying her.

Speaker 3:

I always try to say there, I don't know if it was my West Virginia accent that was like blurring like a there or a her or something like that.

Speaker 3:

Maybe she had a girl right before us and they were just talking and I like make a point when I look at each chart before I go in and see each patient. If it's a secret gender, I put in like big bold letters, like secret gender, and I never put the gender on top. I have to actively scroll down to remember it. So I'm not sure what happened there, guys.

Speaker 2:

But I'm glad.

Speaker 4:

I did the wrong gender, you know. But then at that same appointment or another appointment we were convinced we saw a penis. So we were like maybe she did that to counteract the fact that we saw a penis.

Speaker 3:

It was all planned.

Speaker 2:

It was all planned, it was over thinking every little thing. So I want to show you the video that we took, and how early on are you able to tell? This was really early if it's a penis or not.

Speaker 3:

I mean we usually, I mean we really confirm it at 20 weeks, but you can see it earlier than that. Okay, I just don't think.

Speaker 2:

And while I pull up this video, do you think that it's becoming more common for people to now wait for a surprise gender? Because I feel like the gender reveals have become so extreme that people are kind of going the opposite direction.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think the fact that you can find out so early now like at 10 weeks. I think more and more people are waiting.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, for sure I mean it's a little bit more fun.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's the best.

Speaker 2:

All right. So look at this photo right here. That's his head, arm, legs. That's a shiny thing in the middle there.

Speaker 3:

I don't think that's a penis. I'm not sure exactly what that is, but it would not be that bright and that big that's so hot.

Speaker 2:

So listen to them walk.

Speaker 4:

That is exactly what I said. I said that is a penis. We have issues.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so maybe the umbilical cord.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2:

Which is what?

Speaker 3:

I said the whole time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it was. It went from very emotional and everybody's like did you cry? Like there's parts where I kept on like holding my tears back. I'm like, all right, gotta be strong, gotta get through this. And then I was like getting ready for waterworks and then I went into complete shock once locks came out and it was the coolest feeling ever and I highly recommend if anybody's on the fence about thinking if they want to wait, I think it is the greatest surprise you could have and there's not many surprises left and that's what everybody told us and we can confirm. It was the best decision, I think.

Speaker 4:

I'll never find out again. Yeah, ever, and that was your idea.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 4:

I commend you because it was the best idea.

Speaker 2:

I didn't want to do it.

Speaker 4:

I didn't want to do it, but I'm so glad that we did.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was awesome. So then all right. So the baby comes out and then, like Dre was saying, everything is so fast, you hand off the baby to Dre and they get some skin to skin time, right, and then they take the baby back to do the testing, but you're still working. Like Dre was, like did you see everything that came out of me? And I think I was so in the zone and so focused on the gender, like all this stuff in the background I didn't even like focus on or see, but you're still working. So, immediately after you get hand off the baby, you're then sewing her up.

Speaker 3:

Delivering the placenta and then evaluating her tears and then sewing up.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so delivering the placenta, is that something that? Just comes out pretty easy Usually yeah, yeah, okay I didn't even think about that part.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I mean, he asked me yesterday. He's like did you see your placenta? I was like what? No, did you? He's like, yeah, I took a look in the bucket. Yeah, I walked by. I was like, no, it's pretty gnarly, it's a little busy yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's gnarly, yeah, and so that for you has got to be. I mean, I think about how rewarding of a job that is, and, like your profession is so freaking cool because you're in there with these people. It's emotional and it's like we have this bond now. For the rest, of our lives.

Speaker 4:

You delivered our baby, you're the first person to touch him, the know his gender.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and like how cool is that going home and just like you're doing that multiple times a day, Like how many babies do you?

Speaker 3:

deliver a day. It again it depends, but I mean this week there's been seven.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so, but yeah, it never gets old.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I mean, I can't imagine.

Speaker 2:

And I was asking on one of my visits. I don't know if you were the one that told me, but I was wondering if there's like a busy season for babies. And somebody said that ever since COVID, you guys have just been nonstop yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean, we had like a huge COVID load where people were just staying home and having sex.

Speaker 2:

You know can't go outside Getting pregnant, so getting pregnant.

Speaker 3:

That's what does it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's crazy. So then Locke comes out and then he does his agar. That's the right right Agar Testing Appgar.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. And that is like testing the color, breathing Heart rate, heart rate, Heart rate, yeah, all the things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that went all smooth again, like just smooth sailing. Would you look back at ours delivery and be like, yeah, that was like very smooth.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the whole. Thing.

Speaker 2:

The whole. Thing.

Speaker 3:

Pregnancy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did good mama.

Speaker 4:

He did come out looking like he had been in the boxing ring for six rounds. I mean that first picture of him. We look at it now I mean and in the moment you know, like you're like he's beautiful, yeah. And I look back now I'm like don't ever show that picture to anybody ever. He's ugly and he doesn't look like that Right, but he's blue and swollen Blue, swollen cone head.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, oh, we had never discussed the cone head, so I knew that. You know, when they said in the birth canal and I was pushing for an hour and a half like they're going to come out, it will go back. We had a friend of ours who was there in the waiting room Caleb Gamblin. He's been on the show and he came in, saw the baby and the next day or the next couple of days when he saw and he saw that the baby's head had gone back and he said, man, I went home, I couldn't sleep that night. I thought is somebody going to tell them that their baby's head looks like a cone?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Because he said he's only been around babies who have had C section deliveries. So he's never actually seen a baby like that. And I haven't. I don't know if I've ever seen well, obviously not up that close, but yeah, his head was matte. It was like the size of football.

Speaker 4:

It really wasn't that bad. It was pretty big In the grand scheme of cones.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then it just comes back to normal shape within like 48 hours.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, crazy how much they changed in that first like 24 to 48 hours Wild.

Speaker 2:

And even now, like his head, like I feel the top of his head, it feels like there's a big hole there. Is it still like?

Speaker 3:

a skull form. Everything is still fusing.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, he asked me that see it on the couch. He's like there's a you can feel right here. Yeah, he's like that's going to come together, right, Right, Yep, Yep. They're going to grow together. That's how it works.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we're going to go with the recovery room, right, and a big discussion we've had on this podcast as well is are we going to let our kid go to the nursery? And you probably think I'm crazy for this, but I'm like. There's so many people online who are like don't bring your kid to the nursery for all different types of reasons. People are like they switch babies, or they shoot up your kids with vaccines you don't want you don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 2:

So the first night we were like they asked us if we wanted to bring locks to the delivery or the Clarify.

Speaker 4:

I was team. We should take advantage of that Because they'll take him to the nursery. I want to be able to sleep and not worry about him sitting in the bassinet next to me going is he breathing? Is he breathing? Is he breathing? Because I already think like that and someone will be watching them. It'll be great. Sean was like, absolutely not. He's not leaving my site and was adamant about it. And what did you do?

Speaker 2:

And I was like, all right, this might sound crazy, but is there any way I could like go to the nursery with you guys and just check it out? And they're like yeah, you can come with us. So then they walk me down the hall and they show me. I'm like all right, that looks cool, let's do it, and then the baby goes there. For I think you can only do three hours at a time. Max something like that, and then they bring him back.

Speaker 4:

And I'm feeding him. I'm in the middle of feeding him, I get done and the baby's like kind of getting restless and Sean's like in a sleep on the couch. He's like you're going to call the nurse, right to take him back to the nursery. Okay, now we want him to go back.

Speaker 2:

I was like yeah, you can bring him back.

Speaker 4:

He said it multiple times Every time that logs would go back in. He'd be like Dre call her, tell him to take it to the nursery. I'm like we're getting there, we're getting there and he's been fantastic.

Speaker 2:

And then I came. No wait, I left to go get you. Chick-fil-a is the first meal you wanted.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I left the hospital and just, completely, just exhausted and adrenaline is just shot, and I was walking down the hallway and I heard a baby just howling like screaming.

Speaker 2:

I was like oh man, I hope that's not locks, and I kept on walking down the hallway getting closer and closer. I was like, oh my gosh, I think it's locks. And like you could hear this baby throughout the entire hallway, I was like, oh no, it is. And I opened the door and I walk in the room my head's down. Then I, like, I put my head up and there's some random dude and a mom there. I was in the wrong room.

Speaker 2:

I was like I'm sorry guys. Yeah, so it wasn't locks, and that baby kept me up all night.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that baby cried next to his head. The irony of that.

Speaker 2:

But we were telling you earlier that for the first week now he's been like the chillest baby ever, Like he sleeps good. When he's up he's alert, just looking around. It doesn't really cry unless we like take him out of his blankie. And you said that's not really that normal right.

Speaker 3:

Like I mean, that means you got a good one.

Speaker 4:

Oh my God, a good one. Yeah, we keep saying we're waiting for the storm to come.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now we're like oh, it usually takes a lot longer to kind of like get a whole sleep pattern going here.

Speaker 4:

But yeah, he would sleep for five or six hours if I let him. Sometimes he wakes up, but he never really like wails. Yeah, like cries, cries.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so getting into the feeding, do you deal with anything with that? Or is that like? They obviously have other nurses who deal with all like?

Speaker 3:

latching Right. We have our lactation consultants and all of that to deal with all the feedings.

Speaker 4:

Okay, they were wonderful.

Speaker 2:

I met with them twice before I left and he's been great latching on, and so now you have to feed him like every two to three hours, correct?

Speaker 4:

Until it's back up to their birth weight. But then some people I know that their moms are like you don't have to do that. They're like it's fine, they'll get back up to their birth weight. No big deal, I'm like well, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I would defer that to the pediatrician for sure. Yeah, yeah. He said to do it. Yeah, how much do you think their birth weight?

Speaker 2:

and height correlates to their, like, actual height and weight. Yeah, yeah, she's like I can't, maybe off.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I told you I didn't go into peeds.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was seven pounds 14 hours. Because somebody in the room was like oh, it's a big boy. And I was like yes, and then they put him on the scale. I was like looking, I was like come on, keep going, keep going, keep going. I want to see an eight in front of that. And then she said like seven, 14. But he's awesome. And we got a bunch of questions for both of you guys here that we're going to go through now in social media. First one for Dr Sangani what is the hardest parts of your job?

Speaker 3:

Like I said, the you know five to 10% of times when things go wrong. It can go really wrong, but I think the time that I get with the patients beforehand to build that relationship you know for nine, 10 months beforehand helps them and helps me get through those really hard times.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, sometimes things can go really wrong.

Speaker 2:

That's no fun. Yeah, absolutely Um breastfeeding or formula. We said that we were doing breastfeeding.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I am Right. Now I'm switching off. I breastfeed on one, I pump on the other, and then he gets a bottle in the morning and a bottle at night, so dad can have some feeding time too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and he's doing great Eating like a champ. Was it harder than what you expected or was it easier than what you expected?

Speaker 4:

Easier than what I expected, because I think I got the epidural yeah.

Speaker 3:

Give yourself some credit too. You killed it. Yeah, oh, thank you.

Speaker 4:

Thank you, yeah, it was great. It was easier it was. I think I built up a lot of stuff in my head and I've had several friends that have had smooth deliveries say that obviously know that everybody's story is very different and I've had friends that have had not smooth deliveries but a lot of people said that the actual laboring portion and pushing wasn't near as crazy as they. Most of them have been epidural, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And this is a question we had for you. They were talking about earlier. So you said you want to have kids one day. Yep, so what does that look like? Who gets to deliver your baby? Yeah, you're going to pick and choose at the hospital.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I actually, hopefully soon. But one of my partners is my obstetrician. Okay, so she will deliver our baby whenever that comes. But yeah, I feel like anybody in the medical field, there's some sort of there's always a curse we call it the nurse curse or something, so something tends to always go wrong. But we also tend to be the worst patients. We try to control every little thing but, hopefully I can be chill, so we'll see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it'll be great. Tbd Do you think it's harder or scarier knowing the things that go wrong? Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah right.

Speaker 2:

Because just us regular people, we're just like all right let's do it, let's go deliver baby. Yeah, but you've seen everything, so you also know how everything works Right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I can. I think it's both Like you know you can be. It can make things a lot worse because you know what can happen, but also you know what can happen, so you feel a little bit reassured.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, how many kids do you want?

Speaker 3:

I don't know, maybe two, hopefully.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I want like 15 kids now for this week?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I might. I was like, yeah, got to ask Dre about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

We'll see you after another week. He wants one quickly, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of breastfeeding questions, so I suppose that a lot of women have trouble with that right.

Speaker 3:

And then we talked about before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and if you can't breastfeed, you got to go right to formula yeah, yeah, but that's why we have options.

Speaker 3:

I think we put, as women put a lot of pressure on ourselves that breastfeeding is better and the only option, and that's what we should be doing, that's what everyone tells us we should be doing, but a lot of women can't do it, and that's why you know and that doesn't mean you failed or don't want to do it, I mean.

Speaker 4:

I mean, I just didn't want to yeah.

Speaker 3:

And that's okay. That's why you know there's formula.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and you are just getting to the point too where you get like super sore during the day and yeah, yeah, my nipples.

Speaker 3:

Your body is your baby's.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, I don't want anything. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 4:

Sean calls me the restaurant. Here we are.

Speaker 2:

And getting into a little bit of the recovery is something you said after when we were home, dre, is that you never really thought about the recovery right. You kind of just had like the finish line was the labor, the delivery, and you're like nobody really talks about the aftermath.

Speaker 4:

I woke up the next morning and I was like Wolf, yeah. And I was like, once the epidural were off, I was like this is, this is rough. I got in the shower and cried a little bit at the hospital. I was like this is really. I thought I that was the worst. I'd felt pregnant labor, all of it. But then you really do heal, like relatively quickly, like once. Another day went by. I was like, okay, wait, I feel good. And then you know, 72 hours later, I wasn't as swollen. I obviously like can feel that I have stitches, but it is right away. It was a shock to my system because I think I'd felt so good. I was like, oh my gosh, this is worse than carrying the baby. This is terrible, but you do heal quickly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

The body's pretty forgiving. I know it's crazy. Women's bodies are insane.

Speaker 2:

And then going forward our appointments with you. It's like once what in a month or so, and then you kind of just yeah, I'll see you at like six weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And then for Pap smears. And the next baby, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2:

There we go Now. Describe your thought process, emotions, realizing it was a boy versus an expected girl and I was talking about this this week with my friends. Is that my thought process kind of changed? Like I kind of went into a different mindset, knowing that it's a boy for some reason, like I think it was, I don't know, like thinking of like a cute little sweet girl and how I would be with her Still just as loving, obviously. But the mentality that I have now of it being a boy is definitely different and I never really thought past the birth because I didn't want to again guess one direction. But when I was in the hospital showering I was like, oh my gosh, like I get to not that I can't do this with girls and I'm like I get to go to sporting events and play baseball.

Speaker 4:

I mean, that's different. Yeah, experience when you have a son.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do all those dad things with the son, which is crazy. Now I just feel like it's right when I thought the whole time we're going to have a girl.

Speaker 4:

I still feel like she exists somewhere in the world. That was a really strange feeling is what? I was unpacking the hospital bag and doing those things. The one thing about not finding out the gender is I like took out the girls outfit, it had her name on it and I kind of got a little sad. I was like, oh, she's just not, she's not a thing, she's not a person, and it still feels like that she, you know, is in some way. But that was a little sad.

Speaker 2:

How do you feel this is for both of you guys? We'll start with Dr Sengani working out during pregnancy.

Speaker 3:

I think you should do. It especially depends on where you started, like where you were before pregnancy. I mean, I tell patients, this is, you know, not the year you're going to win some sort of fitness competition or run a marathon, but this is you know. You can still stay active and still do some weightlifting and still run and do all the things you normally would do. Just let your you know trainers or coaches whoever they're know, so they can help adjust. But the more you do, the more like stamina you build and the better it's going to be for labor whether or even a C-section the better recovery too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cause we have so many girls that are Jim who've had kids, and they've also the same thing. They're like I'm so glad I worked out and it helped me big time and you were working out until like the day of practically yeah, I would take like a week off here and there.

Speaker 4:

But yeah, I tried. Yeah, it gets tough at the end.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I posted a video of her doing like a workout and everybody's like, oh my God, what are you doing? Shouldn't be working out? And we were literally in your office. I'm like it's fine if she's working out right now, Right.

Speaker 4:

You're like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to take my doctor's word for it. Yeah, especially if you're active before.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, and I was doing it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. I think the main thing, like you're saying, is your base level. If you weren't working out before, you shouldn't just jump into doing CrossFit workouts or something crazy. How did you come up with the name? Got a ton of questions on that Locks. He, well, I'm from Windsor Locks, connecticut, and one night Dre said how about we just name them Locks? And I was like I don't know, that's a little weird. I'm from Windsor Locks. She's like yeah, that's why I said it. I'm like I don't know. And then it just grew on us and grew on me and we stuck with that and we had the girl's name right away, which we don't want to say.

Speaker 4:

Just in case a little girl comes along. It's my top girl name. Yeah, I don't want to share.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but yeah, locks is named after Windsor Locks, connecticut. I think it's unique too. It's a strong name and it's got some meaning behind it, and I don't think there's any Locks's in the world.

Speaker 4:

I mean I'm sure there's one in the world.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I know there's Lock.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, a couple of people have called him Locks and they ask us how we spell it, but we love it. I'm obsessed with his name.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a good one. Let's see here Favorite baby product so far.

Speaker 4:

Me, oh, favorite baby product so far, my portable breast pumps. The Mom Cozies Love them and probably the Snuggle Me. We have two at the house and we take those things everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

All he lays in.

Speaker 2:

Those are great. How was Sean's first dirty diaper changing? Have you got pooped on yet? The first one was wild, and I was warned about this because it looks like space tar.

Speaker 3:

And.

Speaker 2:

I opened that diaper and I was like, oh my gosh, this is terrible and it was so much. And another thing it's like when it's your kid you don't really care as much, like when you think about changing diapers if you don't have a kid. You're like, oh, that's gross. Now. You're just like, whatever we change them every what couple hours. But the other night I went to change him and with the boy he peed and it was going right for my face and I dodged it out of the way and poor guy came back and just landed on his face and he just peed on himself. So we had to wipe it up.

Speaker 4:

And then he got you back. Yeah, two nights later.

Speaker 2:

And then the night after that. I was just laying down with him doing skin to skin, which I like doing every night, and also I felt super wet and he peed and it looked like I had peed myself my boxes were changed None of it.

Speaker 4:

got on the bed or anything. His belly button was full.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so yeah, I have been peed on.

Speaker 4:

I have a video of the first diaper change and you were like holding the wipe, not as confident as you do now, and you're like, oh, buddy, just trying to like get it in there. Yeah, so, gentle, I know he's like oh, I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2:

I was also like how did they not come up with any new technology on diaper changing at this point in life?

Speaker 4:

I think you just got to change it. What are they going to do? A robot that does it for you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's true. How terrifying is birth? Not terrifying anymore.

Speaker 4:

Not terrifying to me? Not when you've got a sangani, that's right.

Speaker 2:

A lot of the name questions. Did you feel prepared taking the baby home? Yeah, the baby. When we took him home I just kind of felt like it was just like normal, like all right, let's go, let's get out of here. I know a lot of people are like this feels kind of weird just taking the baby home, like here you go?

Speaker 4:

I thought it felt weird.

Speaker 2:

You thought it felt weird.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, as you go in as two, you come out as three, and it's for the rest of our lives.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Wild.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like you know it's coming, but then it happens and you're like what just happened?

Speaker 4:

Oh God, you're like I just kept looking at him, being like, oh, because you talk them up, you look at things you set up in the house and you look at something that's empty and you imagine a baby being there. And I was just looking at the bassinet today when he was laying in it and I said I stared at that thing for like four or five months empty and now there's a little newborn in it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Wild. One of the things I loved at the hospital was that because I'd always have to go get food and stuff and while Dray stayed in the room as I ran into so many dads like at the elevator and we're just having dad conversations.

Speaker 2:

We'd be like so how long she pushed for and like just talking about all this baby stuff now. But it was wild hearing everybody's story from you know. There was a couple there that wanted to do at home birth, which you can give your take on this. I think it's absolutely crazy because I'm like, if anything goes wrong, why don't you want to be at a hospital? What do you think?

Speaker 3:

I agree. Like I said, there are so many things that can go wrong. Everything has to be right to have a home birth and you have to have the right people there.

Speaker 2:

So there's didn't go right where the water broke. I think they said that they were at Walmart, and then you have something like 24 hours or else you get an infection.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, increases your risk for it. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So they came to the hospital and yeah, they said it was tough. So at home. I feel like I always hear horror stories about that.

Speaker 4:

It would scare me to death. It would be scary. Yeah, I want to be in a hospital with an IV, just to tell it doesn't have to be a good thing, but just in case, like if I needed blood, if somebody, if something happened.

Speaker 3:

And a lot of the experiences that people want at home is now offered at the hospital.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Unmedicated deliveries and the birthing center and all of that, so a lot of that we try to offer to kind of get those patients to come to the hospital.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I know people who do it, who have three I mean, I know every delivery can be different for even if you're the same person but who have two or three really successful pregnancies and deliveries, and then if their next one is going on the same track, that's when they'll try, which I think. At least you know, you kind of think going into it okay, I've done this before, right, I've done it successfully, my body does it well, so I could see why people would want to do it. Personally, I'm going to be at the hospital with an epineural.

Speaker 2:

Postpartum A lot of questions on that, if you want anything.

Speaker 4:

Just anxiety that he's going to die, or just I'm going to wake up and he's going to not be breathing or something's going to happen to him. I mean I've got to push the thoughts out of my head, every other thought, but I think everybody has that.

Speaker 2:

It is one of those things where, as soon as you wake up, like is he breathing, is he breathing, is he breathing? But then we also say too like when we're moving arounds, we're like, you know, we saw how the doctors get him out. Yeah, I think some of the nurse at the hospital was like you see how we move him around Like he's not obviously very fragile, but you guys are pulling him out.

Speaker 4:

I'm like I think about how you just like got him out of there. I'm like, look, he was fine. And we're like yeah. When you first yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's nerve wracking, but he does they're resilient.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're resilient.

Speaker 2:

And he sleeps in his bassinet. A couple of nights, the first couple of nights, we had him in our bed.

Speaker 4:

In a snuggle me. Not just in the bed. Yeah, it was in a snuggle, me In the middle. I just I was having a hard time putting him far away from me. Not far away, but even just next to me. And then we made the transition.

Speaker 2:

Did you all do? Delayed cord clamping what?

Speaker 3:

is that we did, oh, we did yeah, where we waited for a minute and then we cut, and then you cut the cord. What is the? So? That decreases risk of infection and anemia and has a lot of different benefits for the baby. So, as long as everything's okay, we do only a minimum of 60 seconds.

Speaker 4:

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Interesting.

Speaker 4:

Sean didn't get cut the first time.

Speaker 2:

I didn't. I had to cut two times. I was just all over the place and I got right there, cut the cord, the anus scissors, and I like I cut and I looked away and like, no, no one more cut, dad. So it took me to not proud of that, but the cord just fell off a couple of days ago. It was wild with a little clip on it Right.

Speaker 4:

I just looked down and it was gone.

Speaker 3:

Everyone. Yep, I don't know where it is. You're going to find it somewhere.

Speaker 2:

Did Sean end up catching him? I did not catch him.

Speaker 4:

He was down there, he could have.

Speaker 2:

A lot of comments saying how amazing you look, dre, how great you look after recovering so quickly, a lot of asking for what's the biggest surprise. And I think right now and I don't want everybody's different, but it's not as crazy, oh my God. I know I'm going to get lit up for this.

Speaker 2:

No, it's hard, but not. I think every baby is different. I think we're just fortunate right now, the first week where he's been super chill, he's been feeding, he's been eating. We get hours of sleep at night, wake up for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 4:

At least I do.

Speaker 2:

You got to stay up.

Speaker 4:

We don't wake up. You get woken up to go back to sleep immediately. One time out of the room.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, I think it's been great so far. The first week, dre, how? Do you feel?

Speaker 4:

I really do think it's been great. I think me healing well contributes to that. I could see, if I was having super complications, how hard that would be to take care of newborn. But I'm healing well and he's feeding well and sleeping well. We're just going to cross our fingers, so we continue down this path.

Speaker 2:

A lot of questions about getting induced and using epidurals, like a lot of questions about that.

Speaker 4:

Would you recommend an epidural to people? Are you just like whatever you want to?

Speaker 3:

do I mean? I think it's totally up to you, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Would you get an epidural?

Speaker 3:

I am getting an epidural.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

All right.

Speaker 2:

Do we feel like some people think that that affects the baby somehow with putting that in your body?

Speaker 3:

Yes, some people think that it's going directly to the baby, which is not the case at all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, an anesthesia I always tell patients anesthesia can always come and talk to you and they will describe every little thing and interview you and you can ask them questions to really ease any of your concerns. But yeah, that's not the case.

Speaker 4:

If they had our anesthesiologist, everybody would get an epidural, because she was fantastic. She talked to me through every single step, but without being crazy or weird about it, I mean she was just absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. All the doctors or the nurses were like she's been here for 15 years or something. Every looser.

Speaker 4:

She told me at a nice back.

Speaker 3:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's all they see, so you know yeah.

Speaker 2:

Has your doctor ever slipped up on anybody else's gender?

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 2:

No, all right, that's good.

Speaker 3:

That was good yeah.

Speaker 2:

All right. There's early testing too. I spoke to a couple recently where they said that they got the testing done to their gender before the doctors even did. How accurate are those tests? It's like a take-home test.

Speaker 3:

I've had some patients say they have gone and gotten some tests. One of them said it was right and then the other one said it was wrong. Okay, so I don't know the accuracy. I don't even know where to get them. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Do you want to? You're talking about control and being a doctor. Yeah, Do you want to know the gender? I don't know yet.

Speaker 3:

That I don't know. Wait yeah.

Speaker 4:

What do you think your husband would?

Speaker 3:

want to do. I think he might want to know, but I don't know.

Speaker 4:

You know, I do hear that when we've talked to couples before, and a lot of the times the girl has been like I would, but he won't yeah. And then I was like, oh yeah, I just could never. I'm like, well, I feel like as a guy they'd be like, oh no, it's fine, but it's so often to me. But the guy's like, oh, I just could never, and she's like I would have waited. I'm like ours was opposite. But yeah, highly recommend.

Speaker 2:

What would you want, a boy or a girl?

Speaker 4:

First.

Speaker 3:

First. I don't know, I think, I don't know, I think I want a boy first. Yeah, yeah, but we'll see.

Speaker 2:

Have you delivered more, boys or girls?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I have no idea. I have no idea yeah.

Speaker 4:

Have you delivered twins? Yes, I've never.

Speaker 2:

How's that process?

Speaker 3:

It's fun. You know, I've done a few C-sections, with twins, of course, and then some of them also have vaginal deliveries, which makes it really fun.

Speaker 4:

Is it more common that there's cesarean than?

Speaker 3:

not. So it depends on the kind of twins they are. So if they have like two sacs or two placenas, or if they're just one sac and one placena, then that's definitely always a C-section. But if they're two sacs and two placenas, you could do a vaginal delivery.

Speaker 4:

Have you delivered more than twins?

Speaker 3:

Triplets no.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was hoping for twins. I got a lot of twins in my family.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 4:

That wasn't the case, just one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just one. And how about for how quick and how soon people show versus other people? Again, it's probably just all different.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it all depends on, kind of like how you're built to and how you carry the baby.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, okay. And then last question here there's so many people on the internet being like, oh it's a boy because she's carrying this way, or oh, it's a girl because of this. I think that none of that matters at all.

Speaker 4:

Right, because according to the carrying, I was having a girl, 100% yeah.

Speaker 3:

People do like those little string tacks.

Speaker 4:

I wish we would have done that now.

Speaker 2:

All of this other stuff, yeah.

Speaker 3:

And you're just like okay, well, it's 50-50.

Speaker 4:

So I know you would always say that we're like really one of the other.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Well, there you have it. We can't thank you enough, Dr Sangani, for the best experience ever. You were fantastic and thank you so much for helping us deliver little locks into the world.

Speaker 3:

We wouldn't have fun with anybody else. Yeah so it was so fun.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, what are your favorite? Yes, yeah, all right, you guys.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for listening D-Mall 3. All right, thanks for listening D-Mall 3. All right, thanks for listening D-Mall 3. All right, thanks for listening D-Mall 3. All right.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for listening D-Mall 3. All right, thanks for listening D-Mall 3. Thanks for listening D-Mall 3. Thanks for listening.

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